Tuesday, September 18, 2012


This is a blog which describes the events of the last month or so, where i spent a lot of time researching on building a 2012 gaming rig in India and went ahead and got myself one.
I hope the information here is useful to anyone wanting to build a high end gaming rig in India.
I'm a software guy and not an hardware expert, so all you hardware guru's, do comment, if i missed out something or i was ignorant on something else!

Introduction
    I hope here is the brief description of the audience who would want to read a blog like this and build a gaming rig in India!   The blog can get fairly technical, so be prepared!
  • So you are the guy/gal who absolutely adores computer games and would like to build a TANK of a PC to ensure that you can play games at 1080p resolution with good/great frame rates.
  • You would also like to get into the world of 3D gaming, so your TANK (am gonna refer the PC to a TANK from now on!), should be able to play 3D games with decent frame rates!
  • You absolutely wont care a hoot bout friends/family laughing at you for spending insane money on a computer for something as wasteful as gaming. (These are the same friends/family who sit for hours in front of the TV like couch potatoes and that is not wasteful?  These are the same people who also spend lakhs/thousands of Rupees on huge flat screen TVs. Here we have a PC which does more than a TV. So ignore such people and listen to your heart and head!)
  • You have spare cash to burn. Its tough building a rig in India as compared to say the USA. Every component is at-least 10% more expensive, because we import the components and they are not manufactured here. With the Rupee rates sky rocketing as compared to the Dollar, things are tough for a gaming PC builder. Sigh...these are the times we are living in. Start Saving!

Components
  • Processor
            The brain of the PC.  Without this guy, there is no gaming PC!  You can choose between Intel and AMD processors.   Intel offers better performance, particularly at the high-end of the spectrum; while AMD generally offers "more bang for the buck".

    I confess to having a soft spot in my heart for AMD, for two reasons:
    1) Without AMD, we'd probably all be paying huge money for a chip.
    2) I admire Jerry Sanders, whom I consider one of the great pioneers of personal computing.

    I shall leave the debate to you guys!
    I chose Intel as in a "single threaded world" the intel arhitecture its the best. 99% of games are not multi core optimized and i also wanted to go for an Nvidia graphics card which supports 3D vision 2 and the Intel/Nvidia combo goes well together. More on graphics cards later.

    When it comes to a gaming rig, the most important component is your graphics card, and thus you can compromise on the processor and not go for the latest and greatest.
    Now that i have chosen Intel i had to choose between the older Sandy Bridge desktop processors against the newer Ivy Bridge processor series.

    For me the biggest reason to choose Ivy Bridge over Sandy Bridge is for the simple fact that, Ivy Bridge supports PCI express 3.0 while Sandy Bridge does not. (More on PCI 3.0 later)
    For a gamer, this is very important.  The PCI 3 lanes give almost 100% performance on 8x where pcie 2 on 8x lanes give like 96%.  Although its not much, we are also future proofing our system, on using better PCI 3.0 based cards in the future.

    Ok, Its going to be Ivy Bridge, now which one i5 or i7?  Ha!  Another choice to make and scratch your head.  Fret not, gamer!  There is not much of a performance difference between an i5 or an i7 when it comes to gaming.  I narrowed my choices to 3 models

    i5-3450
    3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3450 Processor (3.10 GHz, 6MB Cache, with Turbo Boost Technology 2.0) "Ivy Bridge" (quad-core, 22 nm) - HD 2500 GRAPHICS
    i5-3570k
    3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3570k Processor (3.4 GHz, 6MB Cache, with Turbo Boost Technology 2.0) "Ivy Bridge" (quad-core, 22 nm) - HD 4000 GRAPHICS i7-3770
    3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor (3.4GHz, 8MB Cache, with Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 - Ivy Bridge" (quad-core, 22 nm)) - HD 4000 GRAPHICS
           Both i5 and i7 here have quad cores, The 'K' series allows us to overclock our 
           processors. So that would be an important consideration for some people.
           The Intel 4000 HD graphics hardly 
mattered as am going to use a discreet graphics
           card.  

           
          Most important the cost.
          The i7 processor almost costs close to Rs 20,000 and the i5-3570k costs Rs 15,000
          and the i5-3450 
costs Rs 11,000.

          The Chosen One:  Intel i5-3450
             
    I have no plans to overclock and i want to save some money here and invest that money on a powerful graphics card. There is hardly any performance difference between an Ivy Bridge i5 and the Ivy Bridge i7

Z77 chipset specs
  •  Motherboard
        The heart of the PC.   I can say the most important component when building a gaming rig.

     I have only considered the latest chipset by Intel, which is the Z77. This chipset has the following main features.

    PCI 3.0 support
    PCI Express 3.0 is the next generation specification that boosts performance 2x from 16GB/s to 32GB/s over the same 16x physical connection.
    We still have 16 PCIe lanes from the CPU, but with the new chipset these are fully and officially rated at PCIe 3.0 speeds if you have the GPUs to take advantage of this feature. This becomes more apparent in multi-GPU setups, where the 16 lanes are split between the slots

    Native USB 3.0
    The Z77 supports the native implementation of USB 3.0 that comes directly from the chipset. The chipset will only provide two USB 3.0 headers, giving four ports total, either in the form of rear panel additions or an onboard header (this is at the discretion of the motherboard manufacturer). For many low-end boards, this eliminates the cost of a controller from the product. For high end SKUs that typically have 4-6+ USB 3.0 ports, while it does reduce the number of controllers by two.

    Memory ImprovementsFor the high-end power user, the chipset is now geared to handle memory that is more powerful. Again, thanks to the improvement on the new processors, these combined systems should be able to handle (with ease) DDR3-2800 memory.
    Although i'm buying DDR3-1600 memory, i like it that we are future proofing this rig :)
          Now that i have chosen the Chipset, now its time to look at companies which build boards that take the Z77 chipset specification and create cool boards.

          I narrowed down to 2 companies ASUS and Gigabyte, after eliminating the likes of
          ASUS Rock, Biostar etc after looking at the benchmarks, features, support issues, costs and  availability in India etc.

          Then i narrowed down to these boards
          Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H  Motherboard  - Rs 13,500
          ASUS P8Z77-V  - Rs 15,000
          ASUS P8Z77-V PRO - Rs 17,500
          ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe - Rs 20,500
          
          The ASUS support in India is better, they have some cool features in the motherboards like SSD caching, USB BIOS Flashback - a killer feature, in case of issues, we can recover the motherboard by loading a BIOS file onto a USB drive and pressing a button on the motherboard and voila the BIOS is reset. Intel USB 3.0 ports and AS Media 3.0 ports, Wifi Go feature helps us to use a Motherboard as an access point for other devices, wireless media streaming, remote desktop. (cool stuff).
          Check out the funny but cool trailer of the Wifi-Go feature of ASUS motherboards.
       
          The software of ASUS is way ahead in terms of usability as compared to the software provided by Gigabyte.
          So we need to pick 1 from the 3 ASUS boards.  
          There is this great video from JJ of Asus explaining the differences.

         Here is the summary of differences between the 3 boards
        ASUS P8Z77-V
        Standard ATX form factor motherboard
        No eSATA, Provision for Legacy Mouse/Keyboard combination port, VGA Port, 8 stage Phase design, no dual NIC configuration, 4 memory slots supporting upto max 32 gb RAM, 
        Back Panel consists of the following: 4 USB 3.0 ports, contains higher wattage on them to change devices, this allows you to charge PC and Apple devices. Standard USB 2.0 ports, HDMI, DVI, Onboard Intel LAN, Analog Audio Inputs.

       ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
       6 Pin fan headers, 12 stage phase design, 8 USB 3.0 ports, eSATA

       ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe
       This is the top of the line board with SSD Caching from Intel chipset, ability to connect 2 TB HDD + SDD have SSD Caching, more complex storage configurations, No legacy ports, More USB Ports, Dual Band Wifi with Blue Tooth, Dual Intel and Real Tech LAN Support, The PLX Bridge, which is Specialized bridge for active PCI lines benefit to run CrossFire/SLI even with active devices, eSata. So this bridge helps to keep more active connections running at one time.

     So here you go guys, the ASUS motherboards rock, all the 3 motherboards provide the same overclocking experience, more complex storage configurations, complex Crossfire/SLI GPU setups.
The differences have been highlighted above and in the video below by, the one and only ASUS engineer J.J!!


     The Chosen One:   ASUS P8Z77-V 
     
 This is the price aggressive motherboard in the ASUS stack, it hits all the sweet spots and gives us 
      technologies like USB 3.0 support, gigabit network, Intel networking, wireless support, Crossfire and 
      SLI graphic card setup, overclocking (although i wont be needing it).  
      I chose this because it costs lesser than the other 2 ASUS cards and i wont be using many features
      provided by the other two cards like dual NIC, eSata, complex storage configurations.

      All around this board gives me lots of functionality, lots of slots, lots of serial SATA ports and i wont be 
      hurting in any regard while going with this model!

  • Graphics Card
    The legs of the gaming PC - The work horse!
    Now to the most expensive component of the gaming PC.  This is where you will have to invest good money to get the most out of your gaming rig.
    I have already decided to go with Nvidia graphics card instead of ATI/AMD.  The main reason for me is to explore Nvidia 3D vision 2 technology, as i have a BENQ XL2420T monitor which supports NVidia 3D vision 2.

    So while choosing a graphics card, you gotta play the FPS (frames per second) game! You gotta look at various bench marking sites and check what are the maximum, minimum and average frame rates of various games for different graphics cards.  Ideally 30 FPS is all you need for decent game play experience.  60+ FPS gives you the smooth experience.  Also note when playing in 3D, you divide the FPS count by 2, as the GPU is pushed further to render stereoscopic 3D.  For example if the GTX 570 gives you 44 FPS in Crysis Warhead in 1080p in 2D,  you can assume that you would average around 22FPS in 3D mode.

    One of the frustrating aspects of researching and buying a graphics card is comparing the costs in the USA and the costs here in India.  Check this out.
              GTX 560i - This was a card that was launched almost 2 years back and the prices still havent fallen.
              In 2012, usually people do an SLI, i.e buy another GTX 560i and enjoy 2 GPUs
                GTX 560Ti 1 GB (India) - Rs 14469
                GTX 560Ti 1 GB (USA) - $209 - Rs 11495  (Rs 55 per dollar)

                GTX 570 - This too was a card that was launched almost 2 years back and you can see the significant 
      difference in price here.
                  ASUS GTX 570 1.25 GB (India) - Rs 22245
                  EVGA GTX 570 1.25 GB (USA) - $209 - Rs 14245

                 GTX 670 - This kepler series card was launched in may 2012 and you can again see the significant 
        difference in price here.
                    ASUS GTX 670 2 GB (India) - Rs 26500
                    EVGA GTX 670 2 GB (USA) - $381 - Rs 21000

                   Well the GTX 680 costs Rs 38,670.  This is well out of my budget!

                    I guess there are not many takers for these high end cards in India and we need to import them and thus maybe they are expensive here.  It sucks, but its the fact.

                    Lets look at the performance stats of these cards

                   These benchmark ratings were taken from http://benchmarkreviews.com
               
               
                  So look at the benchmarks and  
                  check out the FPS ratings at 
                  various resolutions and decide 
                  on the best card that suits your 
                  requirements and budget.    

                 You can research more FPS 
                 benchmarking from various sites.    
          Benchmarks from the Nvdia site for the GTX 670 is given in the right.






             
          Also check out the performance of the cards in 3D vision. The youtube 
          video below and the screenshot  here shows the performance.  

          The GTX 670 blows away the GTX 570 in 3D and also beats the 
          big brother GTX 680 in certain games!


          Check out the video of  3D Performance overview GTX 570 vs GTX 670 vs GTX 680


          The Chosen One:    
                ASUS GTX 670 
                This is one heck of a card that blows the competing cards away and even matches the performance of the GTX 680 is some tests. This card is gave more than 60 FPS in most of the games at 1080p resolution with 4X anti aliasing on and maximum settings.  This card also did well in 3D tests.
               
                Higher frame rates are only part of the story though. The GeForce GTX 670 also supports new features like the ability to run Surround on one card, and it also runs at lower power, temperature, and noise.   

                This card has some amazing tech in there.
                NVIDIA's Kepler GPU architecture has been designed from the ground up not just for maximum performance in the latest DirectX 11 games, but optimal performance per watt.

               Another cool tech is the NVIDIA GPU Boost
               Up until now, GPUs have operated at a fixed clock speed when playing 3D games, even if they have the potential to run faster. GPU Boost intelligently monitors graphics work load and increases the clock speed whenever possible. The result is that the GPU always performs at its peak and you get the highest frame rate possible.

           GTX 670 works great with GPU Boost and overclocks easily. With GPU Boost, hitting clock speeds in excess of 1GHz isn’t uncommon in many games (officially, the GTX 670’s Boost Clock is 980MHz), and with a little bit of overclocking, the GeForce GTX 670 easily scales to speeds beyond 1.1GHz.

               The Direct CU 2 technology makes it 20% cooler.  It runs at 1137 Mhz, has 2GB RAM.
               Asus provides GPU Tweak software, to overclock, increase your voltage etc. You can directly wire the  video card to the motherboard. This allows you to tune all features directly from the BIOS of the motherboard.

          • Corsair Show (Cabinet, RAM, Power Supply)
              Went with reputed brand Corsair for the Cabinet, RAM and Power Supply
               Cabinet - Corsair 300 R
               PSU  - Corsair 600C
               RAM - Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz

              Nothing much to discuss here, you could go for Cooler Master brand too.  Its all your preference.
             

          • HDD, Sound Card
              Did not opt for a Solid State Drive as they are expensive as of now.  Am sure with time, prices will drop, but for now we have the ever spinning 7200 RPM, disk!
             HDD:  Western Digital 500 GB
             Sound Card : ASUS XONAR DG Sound Card

          So there you have it folks!
          Here is a small video, i made on my custom built gaming rig in 2012!



          Hope you guys have as much fun as i did researching, saving, reading, thinking and finally building a gaming rig!    Happy Gaming!


          Update - 09/22/2012
          Here is a video i made showcasing the 2D gaming at 120Hz of Crysis Warhead on my gaming rig!
          More updates (especially on 3D), later!  stay tuned!

          27 comments:

          1. Man you sure like your games in high res. I was a gamer a long time ago and i had even worked on hi res graphics. Remember the nVidea Quadro ! yes i had programmed CAD related visuals for it. It was fun.
            Happy gaming

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            1. @stylus4 - Thank you. Yes, the idea was to play at 1080p and dabble at 3D.
              Right the NVidia Quadro cards were aimed to accelerate CAD(Computer-Aided Design) and DCC (digital content creation).
              As compared to the GEForce cards, which are targeted for gamers like me! :)

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          2. Kamlesh... awesome article. Though I'm not much of a gamer myself, it was fun to read all the details about building a PC on one's own. Looking forward to seeing your rig!

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          3. Too good a details covered man .... game on, Kamlesh ... you rock !!

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          4. Awesome article dude, unfortunately I got to it a bit late. Took a hasty decision on the motherboard. I did go in for one good thing though.. The Corsair carbide 400R casing haha :P

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            1. @Ashwin - Thanks. I wanted to go for the Corsair Carbide 400R, but the dealer had some problems getting it or whatever.
              The 300R will do it for me :)

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          5. Kamlesh???
            Can you make tutorials on how to build these PCS?
            i want to build one myself.. I loved your blog and i will use almost the same parts.. but can you make tutorials?

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            1. @Yash - Why dont u get an assembler install it in front of you. You can buy the parts and then get it assembled from the same assembler.
              These are expensive parts and u dont wanna mess with them and go wrong.

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          6. This is very well written. Building a PC is something I want to do by the end of this year. This will help. Where did you source your parts from?

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            1. hey - i got my parts from a parts dealer here in Pune.
              The parts dealer has a decent shop and sells legal stuff.
              So make sure ur dealer is kind of reputed.

              Make sure in the bill, he mentions whom to contact for warranty issues for each part.

              each part is warrantied by the manufacturer, so its kind of ok, i guess.

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            2. Thank you! Living in Delhi I have the benifit of an entity called Nehru Place. But you have to dig through a lot of shops to find people who will take you seriously and give you what you want, instead of selling things they want to sell. But I am giving some thought to using ebay.in. Do you have any opinions on that?
              And for warrenty issues do you cantact the manufacturer or the dealer? I have no expierence with parts. But for all electronics I have used, phone laptop etc. I have never gone back to the dealer when problems arose. Straight to authorised service centers, does something like that exist for indivisual parts?
              And I was wondering about your build, why did you opt for a seperate sound card?

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            3. Hey Wonderer - Nice to get ur message :)

              Well in my case, the dealer had to procure parts from difference places like Mumbai, Delhi etc. For example the GTX 670 card is a kind of card which hardly sells! For starters it costs Rs 28000 and people r shocked when i paid so much!
              As you are in Delhi, u should get it cheaper rates. As Delhi is a hub for imports.

              So if the parts dealer can get u all the parts from his sources and can even assemble them in the computer and tell you from where he got the parts - he would seem reliable.

              In my case - For every part, he wrote down from where he got it and phone number and shop address on warranty issues/servicing etc.
              For Some parts, i have to contact other dealers (like Rashi Pheripherals - very famous dealer here in MH) - For some parts like Westtern Digital HDD - he will give u the WD authorized service centers.

              So its a mix and match.

              But ultimately u just have to use ur gut instinct and look for reviews of ur parts assembler on the net etc.

              Well separate sound card definitely makes a difference to your gaming performance.
              You push the audio processing to a separate card with its own memory and thus take that processing away from the CPU.

              A dedicated sound card has many chips and transistors to create sound, whereas many of the integrated on-board solutions have only 1 chip, few transistors, and often rely on software emulation to produce sound. This causes CPU load and can also degrade the sound experience (and even cause the sound to "stutter").

              So there u go!
              What kind of a gaming rig r u building? Looking for 3D gaming?
              Good luck!

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            4. Thanks for the quick turn around!It seems like sourcing the parts is the hardest part of the entire operation. But thank you for the advice, now I know what to expect in my search. I'm still not entirely sold on a discrete sound card though, but I'll look more into 'stutter', try to get a handle on how common that is. Because I'd like to go for a boot SSD instead.
              As for my PC, I want a middle to high end machine. I don't really like 3D, but it seems that not having 3D is a choice that is being gradually taken away, since more and more high level gaming cards support 3D, at an increased cost.
              Also the new Richland processors from AMD have caught my fancy, and since I will use AMD I'd like to go for an ATI based graphics card. Although I have had it up to here with ATI Catalyst. But a lot of it is still speculation and conjecture at this point, except for the fact that I do not want 3D. I'm waiting till the later part of this year before I buy anything. If I have questions before that, I will ask you here again!
              Thanks for the advice so far.

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            5. Hey - If u find a reliable dealer who is experienced u wont have issues.
              Good luck and feel free to post here!

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          7. Hey Kamlesh, I am thinking of building a gaming rig but am in doubt whether to buy an Asus ROG.I am in US right now and am thinking of buying the the graphics card/motherboard from here if i go for a desktop Rig. DO you think there would be any problems in Voltage of components if i buy from US and assemble back in India. I had an MSIGT660 ... it got stolen in India :(

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            1. Hey Saif - buying the parts in the USA will definitely bring the costs down. As you can see from my blog post, i have compared the Indian and American rates and there is a huge difference.

              The big issue is warranty. Can you check with the parts dealer for example - if you are buying ASUS GTX 680 card, do contact ASUS and check with them if they have international warranty.

              No, there wont be voltage problems for internal parts like motherboard, graphics card, sound card m HDD as they dont connect to the Mains.
              But when it comes to Cabinet and SMPS, its better to buy it here in India.

              So there you go, if u can check the warranty aspect and buy the parts in America u will have HUGE savings as compared to buying the parts in India.
              Hope this helps.

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            2. Thanks a Lot Kamlesh. It really helps. Any recommendation for the the graphics card/motherboard.GTX 680 is out of my budget i am thinking more of GTX660 ti.

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          8. Thank you for providing this amazing blog ! I have selected is Biostar Hi-Fi Z87X 3D (Ver.5.x). This motherboard has Support 4-DIMM DDR3-2800(OC)/2600(OC)/2400(OC)/2200 up to 32G maximum capacity. This motherboard also has 3 PCI Express x 16 supported CFX multi-GPU Technology so that the motherboard can perform with the above graphics card. It has Support the Intel 4th generation Core i7 and Core i5 processors in the 1150 pack Intel Z87 single chip architecture for the memory sticks BIOSTAR Hi-Fi 3D Technology inside so that we can upgrade the RAM later in case if it has low performance. It has Built-in 3D Sound Field Headphone Amplifier. And there Hi-Fi V-Cap for premium sound quality with lower distortion not much to say about the motherboard as this is a low end motherboard.
            http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/

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          9. As a user of an Australian broadband service provider, I know that fast PCs and connection is very important for gaming. :)

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          10. Does your CPU cost at least $100? Does your graphics card cost at least $200? If yes and yes, you've got a reasonable gaming system.

            custom gaming pc

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          11. Great Content.I have appreciate with getting lot of good and reliable information with your post.......Asus Technical Support please visit the link.

            Thankyou
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          12. Later I'll add the rationale behind me choosing these, but this is what I had settled with:

            CPU - Intel I5 4670
            Mother Board - Asus Z97 Pro with WiFi (built-in RealTek HD sound card)
            Graphics - Nvidia GTX760 with 2GB RAM
            RAM - Kingston HyperX DDR3 (2x8GB)
            HDD - 1TB Seagate
            Monitor - Asus VG248QE
            Cabinet - Circle 818

            Buddy, I should thank you for being patient enough to let me build the PC at my own pace :)

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            1. sri why ddr3 ram you should have bought ddr5

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          13. I really like your blog specially all the detail about the games well done.
            cheap gaming computers

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          14. very interesting Blog i am very happy to read your post 

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